Guests: An interview with comedian, actor, producer, and co-host of the podcast "Fly on the Wall" with David Spade, Dana Carvey. This week's panel discussion includes Ezra Klein, host of "The Ezra Klein Show" podcast and co-author of the new book "Abundance"; and Andrew Sullivan, writer of "The Weekly Dish" newsletter on Substack and host of the podcast "The Dishcast with Andrew Sullivan."